Truth Provided Newsletter -Spin-Doctoring the Inquisition

Christian greetings everyone in these last days of life on earth. In mid June of this year, the Pope spearheaded a public relations ploy designed to place the infamous Office of Inquisition in a better light. This pope, and his media experts, have bluntly lied about this hellish office so as to make all those they seek to attack and kill appear as “conspiracy theorists” by those duped into believing their lies. As is always the case, the grand majority of the people of this world are spiritually lacking and completely unable to see what they’re up to. This is why Satan is able to control the masses. This is also why in Noah’s day only EIGHT people survived the global deluge. And this is also why we true Christians will in fact be looked upon as conspiracy theorists. The following article was released by the online Roman Catholic publication known as Zenit organization…

Crucial to Have the Facts About Inquisition, Says Pope
Writes a Letter for the Publication of Minutes of 1998 Congress

VATICAN CITY, JUNE 15, 2004 (Zenit.org).- John Paul II reiterated the importance of historical research so that the Church can purify her memory of the sins of her children, in particular, the Inquisition.

"Instead of offering to the world the witness of a life inspired by the values of faith," the Pope continued, Christians on occasion "indulged in ways of thinking and acting which were truly forms of counter-witness and scandal."

Borromeo explained that Pope Gregory IX (1227-1241) was the first to establish "inquisitors," "delegates of the Apostolic See with the task of combating heresy in certain areas."

"Obviously, a request for forgiveness can only affect real and objectively recognized events. Forgiveness is not asked for images spread by public opinion, which are part of a myth and do not correspond to reality," he said.

Cardinal Cottier said that the minutes have been published after a long delay due to a series of health problems affecting the scholars.
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In this article, as well as many others, the Pope is seeking to make the Inquisition appear “not as bad” as some report. The wording alone seeks to downplay the horrendous and torturous acts this church performed on 100% innocent people. Most of whom were true Christians dying for their faith. The Vatican stated that Christians "indulged in ways of thinking and acting which were truly forms of counter-witness and scandal.” Can you imagine? This evil church is saying FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST did these hellish acts when in fact it was the Catholic church leaders that did these things, NOT Christians. Christians do NOT boil people in oil, bury them alive, burn them alive, skin them alive, or torture them for days on end before finally killing them. Christians simply are unable to do acts of demons. Only the Roman Catholic forefathers did this! STILL this so called apologetic man in Rome is seeking to place the blame on others for acts the Vatican itself has done! And he does so at a time when Muslims already have an inbred hatred for Christians. They hate Christians because of what the Catholic church did to them in the past. This is historic fact that no one dares to debate. It is that well known. But still, those nations, and even religions that were attacked by Rome think Rome was a Christian entity doing those acts merely because Rome CLAIMS Jesus as Lord! Thing is, NOTHING can be further from the truth! Roman Catholicism is by no means a Christian religion. It is actually a religion designed by Satan to destroy Christianity by masquerading as Christians while doing hellish acts.

On March 12, 2000 when the Pope “supposedly” apologized, he stated that "...Catholics at times "have not been faithful to the great commandment of love, sullying in this way the face of the Church," His church predecessors tortured and killed countless millions, but as usual the Vatican and Pope of this day says the Catholic people did it!? When will the Catholic people realize their Pope is blaming them for what the Church leaders openly did. The Pope always blames others for his acts! He blamed Christians and Catholics alike! Have you ever heard of a Christian or a Catholic person pulling someone down to their basement to strip them of their skin? No! Have you heard of priests doing it? Yes! Have you heard of priests telling the governing officials of the day to torture people? Yes again. So why is Rome constantly blaming their faithful congregations for what they themselves did? BECAUSE THEY LET THEM! There is no other reason. It’s no different then the countless millions who stay in a church that not only admitted to killing innocent people, they also admitted to molesting their sons TO THIS DAY, and these Catholics stay in this church.

Why isn’t there an uproar regarding these statements? Because for one, the media is controlled, and two, many fear Rome and can see how they manipulate the truth, and how stupid the masses truly are. They know that if they do say something, the Vatican has proven time and time again that they are very capable of lying, twisting the facts, and forcing certain “men in power” to bow to their commands, even if it means to murder. So, those that want to speak out, usually choose not to, figuring it will come to no avail anyway. So why bother putting oneself in danger?

The article also stated, “Forgiveness is not asked for images spread by public opinion, which are part of a myth and do not correspond to reality” In other words, the Pope is stating they seek no forgiveness for the “so called” gossip we see in such works of literature as the “Foxes Book of Martyrs” and other globally known sources of information that list the atrocities of this church. He is not talking about actual “gossip” that is running amuck, because heresay is no threat to such a global entity as this. He is no doubt talking about those works of literature because those books document his church’s past. So he needs to belittle them as a defense lawyers rips into their defendant's victims. All along the church has claimed Foxe’s book, and those like it nothing but myths, as well as out and out “gossip” from what they call anti-Catholics, or Catholic bashers. Yet, the true Christians and their families do understand these things ARE quite true. In fact, MANY ex-Catholic priests and nuns have stepped forward to voice the truth regarding same over the years. Problem is, most of them, after doing so, simply wind up missing, or are literally found dead. This again affords the Vatican another opportunity to prevent further problems. FEAR reigns supreme in many who do not trust the Lord when He said plainly He has NOT given us a spirit of fear, and no weapon formed against us shall prosper! (Isaiah 54:17)

I ask… Why would the pope be looking for positive public relations (PR) for the Inquisition?? And why now? Because he himself RE-INSTATED IT IN 1991! And the Vatican plans to USE IT soon. If they had no plans to use it then WHY re-instate it? They know that when the word gets out this office is once again being used, the “so called” gossip concerning it will cause problems for Rome. So, common sense says they need to bathe this hellish office in a light that is far more acceptable to the grand majority of sheeple out there that are truly incapable of seeing the truth for what it is. What better time than now? It’s the twilight hours of the last days. Satan is about to burst forth in all his hellish glory, and the majority of the people the world over are sufficiently conditioned to fall for such hogwash as this. So they jump at the chance!

The thought of a revived Holy Office of the Inquisition would pacify some and offend others. Nevertheless, the "Holy Office" still exists. Only it's name has been changed. Pope John Paul II has been instrumental in its revival. One may argue that this Ratzinger run agency is merely an attempt by the Catholic Church to root out communism or backslidden priests and their practices. However, with John Paul II's objective to implement "God's mandate" by creating a global church-state which will administer from traditional Roman Catholic theology, is enough cause for alarm. Malachi Martin has already stated in his book, "The Keys of this Blood," that the pope will not tolerate any belief systems that oppose his, not on a civil or church level. In John Paul II the world will behold a tyrant who will coldly execute direct orders against those whom he deems are heretics or immoral. Moreover, like his papal predecessors, John Paul II will carry out his "Godly mandate" in the name of Christ, or perhaps Mary. May God help us all.

The positive PR the Vatican cronies are looking to create is designed to make their actions appear not only moral, but it will also make anyone speaking out against the Vatican to appear as wierdos. It’s similar to the way Hollywood has portrayed the Christian for the last few decades. Have you ever noticed the strange looking people Hollywood places in the crowd scenes of their movies? Check it out the next time you see a movie setting inside a stadium or something like that. Once in a while they will show a person with a multicolored clown wig holding up a large sign that says, “JOHN 3:16” on it! I have seen this more than once over the years. They look to make Christianity appears as a ridiculous faith. And by the way, it’s not just Rome doing this today. Look at the Pentecostal churches, or the folks that dance with snakes in Georgia, laugh uncontollably in Toronto, or bark like dogs in Tinley Park Illinois. They make Christians appear strange! When people walk into these churches and see how strange and ridiculous the people act, they decide Christianity is a joke and not worthy of investigating.

Countless scores of people have exposed Rome and its lies, and yes, countless scores have been killed for it. PLUS, it’s no longer as if the Vatican is trying to hide it’s evil past, or present. Still, people that willfully allow this satanic agency to blind them, are the very ones who defend it. The media is literally drenched today with everything from child molestation, to drunken bishops killing people in hit and run accidents. But those of us that expose Rome are called the evil ones according to this church and it’s media drones. And everyone believes them over those that have bonafide factual data exposing this Antichrist! Amazing isn’t it?

Vatican 'dispels Inquisition myths'

By Verity Murphy BBC News Online

Engraving of the Inquisition at work The Inquisition reached its peak in the 16th Century. The Vatican has published a new study on the abuses committed by the medieval Inquisition and come to a rather surprising conclusion - that in fact the much feared judges of heresy were not as brutal as previously believed. According to the 800-page report, the Inquisition that spread fear throughout Europe throughout the Middle Ages did not use execution or torture to anything like the extent history would have us believe. In fact the book's editor, Professor Agostino Borromeo, claims that in Spain only 1.8% of those investigated by the notorious Spanish Inquisition were killed. Nonetheless, as the report was published, Pope John Paul II apologised once more for the interrogators' excesses, expressing sorrow for "the errors committed in the service of the truth by the recourse to non-Christian methods".

… The punishments meted out for wrongdoers ranged from being forced to visit churches and make pilgrimages, to life Vatican report on the Inquisition imprisonment or execution by burning at the stake.

…The accused did not have the right to face and question their accuser and it was acceptable to take testimony from criminals and excommunicated people.

The Inquisition reached its peak in the 16th Century as it battled the Reformation, but its most famous trial was that of Galileo in 1633, condemned for claiming the earth revolved around the sun.

The Spanish Inquisition which became independent from the Vatican in the 15th Century, carried out some of the most infamous abuses under its "autos da fé" or act of faith, shorthand for death by burning. They zealously tortured victims, held summary trials, forced conversions and passed death sentences.

"There is no doubt that at the start, the planned procedures were applied with an excessive rigour, which in some cases degenerated into true abuses," the Vatican study simply says of this dark period. But the Vatican report, the product of a six-year investigation, insists that the Inquisition was not as bad as often believed. Professor Borromeo says for example that for 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in Spain, less than 2% were executed. He says that often mannequins were burned to represent those tried in absentia and condemned to death and heretics and witches who repented at the last minute were given some sort of relief when they were strangled before being burnt. Little comfort. But for those connected with victims of the Inquisition, Vatican claims that it was not as bad as thought carry little weight. Galileo was the Inquisition's most famous victim

Among those targeted by the interrogators were the Waldensians, members of a Protestant sect declared heretical in the 12th Century. "If there are many or few cases, it doesn't matter. What's important is you don't say, 'I am right and you are wrong and I burn you'," said Thomas Noffke, a US-born Waldensian pastor in Rome.

Who in their right mind is going to believe this pack of lies? I wonder, would this article have been released BEFORE the Roman Catholic Commercial I like to refer to as "The Passion of the ANTI-Christ?" Countless scores of Protestants are now looking at Rome as a "moral" entity thanks to this blasphemous film. Had these articles about the Inquisition been released BEFORE the film, I am sure most people would think, "Who do they think they are trying tell us about history?" But now that so many accept that Catholic commercial as biblically accurate, and they look to Rome as being Christian again, Rome goes for it! Problem is, there are the Elect of God that Rome has to contend with. We know this church has lied before. Plus we know they lied in the past during the Inquisitions. We also know they lied about helping Hitler. And we also know they lied about molesting their own children for as long as there is recorded history, up and including to this day! So I ask, do we think they’re not lying now? I literally chuckle at the stupidity of that assumption.

After the article states, only 1.8% were actually killed, it says, “Nonetheless… Pope John Paul II apologized once more for the interrogators' excesses, expressing sorrow for "the errors committed in the service of the truth by the recourse to non-Christian methods".

Using the word “Nonetheless” to start that comment off is to say, “We don’t need to apologize for such a small number of murders, but, “nonetheless,” the pope did anyway at this time. That disgusts me to no end! What a sickening way to downplay the deaths of innocent people as if they are not worthy of even an apology! Plus, did you also notice this article ADMITS to using the exact same methods our “so called” Homeland Security liars use today? The article stated, The accused did not have the right to face and question their accuser and it was acceptable to take testimony from criminals and excommunicated people.”

They did this to Jesus in His day, they did it during the 1260 year “Great Tribulation” Jesus spoke of, they did it in Hitler’s day, and they are doing it in our day. Another obvious trivializing of the truth was found when the article stated, "There is no doubt that at the start, the planned procedures were applied with an excessive rigour, which in some cases degenerated into true abuses," Is that why they say “it’s not as bad as it seems” because they fudged the numbers to allow for abuses they say they never condoned anyway? How convenient? This is no different than the fudged numbers released by the Vatican in February of 2004 regarding the priests that molested little boys over the years. They even admitted in the articles they didn’t add the number of priests that have died over the years into the total number released to the press, because they felt it wasn’t necessary due to the fact they were already dead! That alone gave a false sense of security to the easy to manipulate Catholic who chooses to stay in that church. This made the number appear much smaller! This “fudging” of the numbers regarding the Inquisition is no different. Sadly, so is the end result. Some will believe the lies Rome spews, simply because Rome never tells the whole story!

In the article “Professor Borromeo says for example that for 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in Spain, less than 2% were executed.” Ok, let’s assume for a moment that the Vatican’s Professor is telling the truth here. Let’s assume that all the historic facts that prove otherwise are wrong, and this pack of biased wolves from the Vatican itself are correct in saying only 125,000 went to trial, and only 2% were burned at the stake or killed in other torturous ways. That means the Vatican admits to torturing and KILLING over 6250 people! “Nonetheless” they apologized anyway.

By the way, all those believing “mannequins were burned” please raise your hands. Not many I’m sure.

One last point I would like to make regarding this article. It was said that those that “repented at the last minute were given some sort of relief when they were strangled before being burnt.” Can you imagine what they said to get them to deny Christ as Lord? They no doubt offered them freedom, and life if they denied the Jesus of the Bible for the Jesus of Rome. And then to Satanically seal their fate as one who just openly denied Jesus Christ before Heaven and man, THEY STRANGLED THEM anyway so as to assure Satan gets his number! So.. in the future… those of you standing before possessed Roman Catholic priests, I implore you to remember. To deny Christ is to die, TWICE! Rome cannot be trusted anyway. But Christ CAN be trusted! No matter what you say, they’re going to kill you anyway! Common sense affords us the reality that if they let you live after denying Christ, they no doubt fear you will tell others of their torturous methods to get you to the point of denial. So.. deny Christ.. they kill you. Refuse to deny Christ, they kill you as well. Of course the difference here is, if they kill you for not denying Christ you will live forever!

By the way, were you aware that MODERN DAY Vatican chit chat is such that they speak of the benefits of burning Christians at the stake right now as we speak? On my “Evils of EWTN” page in the “RCC Exposed” section of the website, I have an actual conversation that was posted on the EWTN Message board online! For those that aren’t aware, EWTN is a National Roman Catholic Television Network in the USA! They posted that conversation in May of 2002. After word got out about some websites gleaning the conversations to show others, EWTN promptly deleted those statements. Too late tho.. Some of us gleaned ity already. Here is just a small excerpt of what they had on that page…

Re:Heretics
Question from Jared on 05-13-2002:

Dr. Carroll, in response to the post by Michael Edwards-Ronning on 5-11-02: I think that the popes during that time felt that the killing of heretics was just. To figure, wouldn't it be a lot better for the general population if a few mainstream heretics were killed, so that the whole population was not "infected" by the heresies of the few? What I am trying to say is that it wasn't a terrible idea. Kill a few heretics to save the eternal souls of the population. That may seem harsh, but that is the basis of my assumption. Thanks.

Answer by Warren H. Carroll, Ph.D on 05-15-2002:

Well stated. I agree with you. - Dr. Carroll

COPYRIGHT 2002 EWTN

Where have we heard this before? That's right, when the Pharisees were seeking a reason to kill Jesus...

What amazes me here is that no one seems to mind when the Vatican and their priests speak of torturing innocent people. No one seems to mind that Roman Catholic “doctors of divinity" openly agree that killing a few people by flames is an agreeable and acceptable act of the church. This graphically evil organization obviously feels no threat from the “so called” authorities. Why do you suppose that is? Can anyone see the forest for the trees here now? For those of you seeking confirmation that the US Government has been completely taken over by Rome, lets do the math. Prophecy states an image of the beast must be set up. Since the Lateran Treaty was signed in 1929 by Cardinal Gasspari making the Vatican a church and State again, it has slowly but surely been taking over the United States Government. Then in October of 2002 the “Christian Coalition” started to graphically seek governmental changes designed specifically to make the US Government into both a church and state entity. You can see all the facts regarding this by reading my October 2002 Truth Provided Newsletter entitled, "Christian Coalition to Create Image of the Beast"

Now of course this is only one topic. One can take just about any topic of evil, look to Rome to see it’s inception, and then peer into the halls of Washington D.C. to see the USA accepting it. Students of prophecy are not blind to the fact that the USA is in fact the prophesied lamb horned beast that gives power unto the beast in Rome. Everything from the Roman Catholic contrived blue laws of 1962, to the Government vouchers for Catholic schools just a few years back confirm this nicely. However, the perfect image will have to do as Rome does behind closed doors as well. Rome favors force, terror, torture, and murder to get their agenda realized. So, the USA must do as she.

US turns to torture to crack prisoners of war
By Dana Priest and Barton Gellman
December 27 2002 The Washington Post

Deep inside the forbidden zone at the United States-occupied Bagram air base in Afghanistan are a cluster of metal shipping containers protected by a triple layer of concertina wire. The containers hold the most valuable prizes in the US-led war in Afghanistan - suspected al-Qaeda operatives and Taliban commanders.

Those who refuse to co-operate inside the secret CIA interrogation centre are sometimes kept standing or kneeling for hours, in black hoods or spray-painted goggles, intelligence specialists familiar with CIA interrogation methods say. At times they are held in awkward, painful positions and deprived of sleep with a 24-hour bombardment of lights - subject to what are known as "stress and duress" techniques.

Those who co-operate are rewarded by interrogators whose methods include feigned friendship, respect, cultural sensitivity and, in some cases, money. The most hardened cases are turned over - "rendered", in official parlance - to foreign intelligence services whose practice of torture has been documented by the US Government and human rights organisations.

While the US Government publicly denounces the use of torture, all of the national security officials interviewed defended the use of violence against captives as "just and necessary", and they were confident the American public would back their view. The CIA, which has responsibility for interrogations, declined to comment.

"If you don't violate someone's human rights some of the time, you probably aren't doing your job," said one official who has supervised the capture and transfer of accused terrorists. "I don't think we want to be promoting a view of zero tolerance on this."

The off-limits patch of ground at Bagram is one of a number of secret overseas detention centres where US due process does not apply. Another is Diego Garcia, an island in the Indian Ocean that the US leases from Britain.

In other cases, usually involving lower-level captives, the CIA hands them to foreign intelligence services, notably those of Jordan, Egypt and Morocco, with a list of questions the agency wants answered. These "extraordinary renditions" are done without resort to legal process and usually involve countries with security services known for using brutal means.

According to one official who has been directly involved in transferring captives the understanding is: "We don't kick the [expletive] out of them. We send them to other countries so they can kick the [expletive] out of them."

At a joint hearing of the House and Senate intelligence committees in September, Cofer Black, then head of the CIA Counterterrorist Centre, spoke cryptically about the agency's new forms of "operational flexibility" in dealing with suspected terrorists. "All you need to know is that there was a before 9/11, and there was an after 9/11," Mr Black said. "After 9/11 the gloves come off." -The Washington Post

One source of the original article is at http://www.victoria.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/10737.php

Rumsfeld approved torture techniques: top brass

June 4, 2004

Washington AP: United States Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld personally approved four special interrogation techniques used on two al-Qaeda operatives held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who then talked about the terrorist network and its plans, the commander of US forces in Latin America said today.

Army General James Hill, who heads the US Southern Command, declined to describe the techniques. He said other detainees might "figure out a way to resist those techniques" if they were disclosed. –SMH.com.au

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/04/1086203599711.html?oneclick=true

US 'is using torture techniques' to interrogate top al-Qa'ida prisoners

By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles 27 December 2002

The United States is subjecting top-level al-Qa'ida captives in its custody to extraordinary physical and psychological coercion, blurring the line between acceptable interrogation techniques under international law and outright torture, according to a detailed report in yesterday's Washington Post. –Independent.co.uk News

Can anyone now see that this "lamb horned beast" is now starting to look like the dragon controlled beast in Rome? This “light torture” as some would call it always leads to graphic torture. Even Rome admitted that long ago. History proves the Vatican tried to do it “lightly” at first, but after men possessed by demons got a taste of torturing and killing Christians, the methods were “abused” as Rome put it in that article I shared earlier. Spiritually speaking, they just got “blood thirsty” as is a natural human, as well as animal reaction. In fact, this is why the plague of blood is administered unto them.

· Revelation 16:6, "For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy."

As is so apparent in the first article, some people AREN’T cracking under the pressure the lamb horned beast of Revelation is administering. So our Government sends them to other countries where they will use much more intense methods of torture to get the information they seek. Rome did this first, and now the lamb horned beast follows suit. They even admitted in the article that they send them there with a list of questions they need answered during the torture! This is exactly what Rome did long ago! On March 12, 2000 the pope admitted, as did many others, that they sent “heretics” to the local authorities with “questions” they needed answered. The church felt it would be better if they themselves weren’t directly involved in administering the torture. So they got their Roman Catholic controlled authorities to do it for them! And did you also notice that other countries have known about the US Government’s problem with torture before most of us in the states heard anything about it? This has been going on for some time it seems!

By the way, this is not the only thing that has been going on for some time. In Canada we see a bevy of strange laws popping up all over the place designed to benefit Rome as well as glorify sin. This no doubt allows the “sectioned off regions” of the world we will see created when a Global Government. This will allow them to have certain laws in place in each continent. What the American people object to, the Canadians will pass as law, and vice versa. All this is of course done for convenience. That way they can make sure their evil desires are accessible without much travel time slowing things down.

Canada preparing to enforce Islamic law
Judges will give legal sanction to disputes between Muslims
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Posted: November 27, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
©_2003_WorldNetDaily.com

Canadian judges soon will be enforcing Islamic law, or Sharia, in disputes between Muslims, possibly paving the way to one day administering criminal sentences, such as stoning women caught in adultery.

Muslims are required to submit to Sharia in Muslim societies but are excused in nations where they live as a minority under a non-Muslim government. Canada, however, is preparing for its 1 million-strong Muslim minority to be under the authority of a Sharia system enforced by the Canadian court system, according to the Canadian Law Times.

Muslim delegates at a conference in Etobicoke, Ont., in October elected a 30-member council to establish the Islamic Institute of Civil Justice. The institute is classified in Islamic law as a Darul-Qada, or judicial tribunal. Its bylaws are scheduled to be drafted and approved by Dec. 31.

Cases will be decided by a Muslim arbitrator, but the local secular Canadian court will be the enforcer.

How blind do these people think we are? The Vatican did the exact same thing during the Inquisitions, and now we see Canada following suit word for word. Imagine if you will some people in the USA or even Mexico for that matter that have been accused of certain crimes they didn’t commit. Now suppose the Government want’s them dead as per the Vatican’s command. All one needs to do is what the USA is already doing regarding torture. Just ship them to countries where certain barbaric acts are allowed! And now it appears we have one just across the border so as to allow the job to get done the same day! Ahhh the benefits of a one world government!

To this day the Vatican has declared they “thought” they were doing God’s will when they kicked people out of churches and then eventually tortured and killed them. WHERE I ask in the Bible is such decadence as this being allowed? I can see it in the Quran of the Muslim, that Pope John Paul II himself KISSED, and was actually photgraphed doing same. But I see it nowhere in the Word of God. HOW can they pretend to tell the masses, a God of mercy would suggest such evils as this? Especially after His Word openly condemns it!

We have the Word of a Mighty God that proves the Vatican is indeed home to Satan. Our job is clear. TELL THEM what this Word says! Tell them their own church is mentioned as home to Antichrist in numerous prophetic confirmations from history. (Click here for a large list to help prove this point) Tell them their priests do exactly as Jesus said Antichrist would do…

I hope you see clearly now as to why Rome seeks positive PR for their Office of Inquisition. The American government is their pawn. But their pawn cannot do the graphic atrocities it wants to do. So, they need to make the Inquisition look acceptable so that the US Government can better facilitate their torturous demands even on US soil! Or at best, Canadian soil.

One last note to help drive this all home. It’s just a bit off topic, but it ties in quite nicely. Do you recall the Newsletters, audio clips, and radio broadcasts I shared regarding the Homosexual agenda of Rome? Do you recall how the Truth revealed in this matter was to help Rome get her so called “Christian” agenda realized in Washington DC for a national Church & State conglomerate? Do you also recall the Christian Coalition movements in this regard?

TESTING THE FAITH

Christians look to form 'new nation' within U.S.

Same-sex marriage called last straw prompting plan for 1 state to secede
Posted: May 24, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Joe Kovacs
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Calling the approval of same-sex marriage in Massachusetts "the straw that broke the camel's back," a group of Christian activists is in the beginning stages of an effort to have one state secede from the United States to become its own sovereign nation.

"Our Christian republic has declined into a pagan democracy," says Cory Burnell, president of ChristianExodus.org, a non-profit corporation based in Tyler, Texas. "There are some issues people just can't take anymore, and [same-sex marriage] might finally wake up the complacent Christians."

Burnell is leading the charge for a peaceful secession of one state from the union, and after originally considering Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina due to their relatively small populations, coastal access, and the Christian nature of the electorate, Burnell says South Carolina has been selected as the target location.

…Burnell, a math teacher and cell-phone dealer, stresses he's not looking for bloody battles that took place in the American Revolution and the Civil War, but is rather seeking a "political divorce." "It's got to be different today," he says. "It has to be peaceful, brokered." But he admits if the federal government decides to use military force to stop the effort, "Then it can't happen."

Already a dozen people are actively working on the project, and some 1,500 by e-mails of support have been received.

If all goes according to plan, Burnell is hoping to have a constitutional convention by 2014, with a president of the new nation – still to be known as South Carolina – elected in 2016, which is also a presidential election year in the U.S. He says the nation would be founded on Christian principles, and the people writing its constitution would have to hash out details to safeguard it as a Christian republic. For now, Burnell prefers to shy away from specifics on the precise laws governing the country. "Independence first, details later," he says.

They are using the Homosexual marriage war to push for a religious form of government! My opinion? It will never happen. Or, this is a government method of coralling the Christians into one area for quick anilihation. Either way, Burnell is merely a pawn of the Roman US Government who is testing the masses on this. Common sense people! Does anyone think the Government controlled media would allow anything like this to get out so freely? The media is reporting it, his website gets massive hits, and he has 1500 emails of support so far. Is it any wonder the privately owned World Net Daily News service had to break the news on this? One thing WILL happen however, there will be a “Religious” form of Government in this nation. Prophecy proclaimed it, and our God can’t lie. Will it be ONLY situated in South Carolina? Not according to the Word of God. It will be GLOBAL!

For more info on the Roman Catholic Office of Inquisition, see the following links: (I have not checked these sites out 100%, so be forewarned, they may link out to areas I don’t condone)

Hey Nic! My husband and I were just enthralled (again) at last week's broadcast (June 13, 04) with your guest. I enjoyed hearing the verses that so many Christians have used to justify Sabbath changes. I belonged to a group that recited each and every one, this was a group that is very open to strange truths that the Bible teaches but wouldn't accept that all 10 commandments are still valid. Go figure. They would discuss the Nephilim, but not the Sabbath....?

In fact, last Fall, God began convicting me about Sabbath, and I concluded that if it isn't still valid and not a law "we're under" anymore but rather, grace, then none of them are valid anymore! And God doesn't work that way nor does it say that He changed anything. I couldn't completely convince my husband, so I prayed that God would speak to him about it and make it known to me that it is the right thing to do, so that as our home's spiritual leader, he will be telling me about his revelation. One I had aready had, but some men don't like their wives telling them how things are.....LOL!!! And one day, a few months later, he said while driving that he believes that God never changed Sabbath and that we ought to start observing it as such. A small tear formed as I saw an answer to prayer...very personally, that God honored my request to send the confirmation of my revelation thru my husband and he had his own about the particular topic.

So many things add up now because of the information you have given so much of your time to present to the truth seekers. And it's hard to impress my husband.....lol....and he really likes your work and discerns that you have more scripture to back up your work than any other place, whether it's website, book or what have you. A Believer can appreciate that and we need that so that we can see God's truth and not only our opinions.

I had so many ideas and plans concerning "ministry" that never panned out...and not only was it not time, but my motives were not right and I had the wrong information!

I thank God and am honored to be a part of the Remnant that may not have it all right (me, namely) but is genuinely seeking the truth and not accepting things that just don't make sense anymore. The devil is just so slick so much more than I gave him credit for, and all this feel good stuff is really his mask, and is why so many church goers do not see the evil, because it doesn't look evil.....!

Sometimes I get frightened at the prospect of suffering and even possibly death for my devotion to the real Christ Jesus but then I am reminded that is a speck of time in eternity and even in suffering is there mercy...the reward of just being in His presence will all be worth it.

So, we'll be listening and hanging onto every word and your guest's words, and in the meantime we're watching the eastern sky....

Hey I don't know for sure if your a father, or even do holidays like this, but just in case... happy fathers day.

In Christ and calling,
Michele (and Mitch)

Yes I've seen it and know its coming. Well when I was a child I was always taught the world would end in 1999. Not so though, it isn't too far away. Since 2000 came, things have been happening here that are shocking, surpizing and just amazing. The weather for one. Floods.,and we get bad storms that seem to be no end. So far God has protected us, just a big tree branch fell yesterday. I know things are coming. I also listen to Alex Jones on inforwars. People are so into themselves these days they don't want to hear anything about Jesus. Rumours of Terrists attacks are Rumours of Wars. Same thing. Wars are happening and the terrorist attacks are the rumours. And thank you for the Trinity page and Ellen G. Whites writings about Christ being self-existent, because that has surely helped me to see things I never knew and that is because I was never taught the truth in my younger years. So glad its coming out now for me. I am so thankful to God. And all of his messengers. I hope I got through to the Smrya Church here. I use to go there and felt something didn't want me there at the time. Maybe it was because of the one things they are not doing and that is they are telling people that Jesus was begotten from God in heaven before he ever came to this world. Then others think he was begotten when he came here.

I am receiving your Newsletter and I enjoy it very much, because it is full of facts. Now I have a question: Some years ago I read an article about some cloisters, which were connected below grade and in the middle there was a room full of bones of little children or babies. One of the cloisters was a monastery and the other one a nunnary. So when the nuns got pregnant, they obviously killed their babies and threw them in this room. So they didn’t live without sex, but they knew excellently to hide their problem. I’m discussing this question with sb, who left the roman katholik church, but he believes that this story is just a saga. Would you help me to get some documents or sth similar?

I to am looking for th documentation about this, as I heard of this as well. If anyone of you reading this newsletter have the proof, I would like to post it on the website. Please send me an email on it as soon as possble.
...Nicholas

US turns to torture to crack prisoners of war By Dana Priest and Barton Gellman December 27 2002 The Washington Post

US turns to torture to crack prisoners of war
By Dana Priest and Barton Gellman
December 27 2002 The Washington Post